{"id":364,"date":"2002-08-12T22:10:44","date_gmt":"2002-08-12T22:10:44","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/joi.betra.is\/?p=364"},"modified":"-0001-11-30T00:00:00","modified_gmt":"-0001-11-30T00:00:00","slug":"","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/joi.betra.is\/?p=364","title":{"rendered":"Ney\u00f0um tr\u00faarbr\u00f6g\u00f0?"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>\u00c1g\u00fast Flygenring birtir grein \u00e1 Frelsi.is \u00ed dag \u00fear sem hann talar um r\u00e9ttindi samkynhneig\u00f0ra. Ne\u00f0st minnist hann \u00e1 a\u00f0 &#8220;enn vill kirkjan ekki kv\u00e6na homma og gifta lesb\u00edur.&#8221; (<a href=\"http:\/\/www.frelsi.is\/frelsarinn\/nanar.asp?id=787\">heimild<\/a>).<\/p>\n<p>\u00c9g held a\u00f0 \u00fea\u00f0 s\u00e9 ekkert skylda kirkjunnar a\u00f0 kv\u00e6na homma og gifta lesb\u00edur. Kirkjan er bara enn einn tr\u00faars\u00f6fnu\u00f0urinn og tr\u00faarbr\u00f6g\u00f0 eru misfrj\u00e1lslynd hva\u00f0 samkynhneig\u00f0 var\u00f0ar. Kirkjan er ekki frj\u00e1lslynd a\u00f0 \u00fev\u00ed leyti. Sj\u00e1lfur er \u00e9g gu\u00f0leysingi og er nokku\u00f0 sama hva\u00f0 kirkjan vill og vill ekki gera, en a\u00f0 beyta ytri \u00fer\u00fdstingi \u00e1 tr\u00faarbr\u00f6g\u00f0 til a\u00f0 breyta \u00feeim \u00feannig a\u00f0 \u00feau brj\u00f3ti ekki \u00ed b\u00e1ga vi\u00f0 n\u00faverandi samf\u00e9lagsnorm held \u00e9g a\u00f0 s\u00e9 ekki r\u00e9tta skrefi\u00f0. Reyndar v\u00e6ri \u00fea\u00f0 bara \u00f6llum til hagsb\u00f3ta a\u00f0 kirkjan h\u00e9ldi \u00e1fram a\u00f0 vera st\u00edf \u00e1 \u00feessu, \u00fe\u00e1 myndu fleiri sj\u00e1 hversu \u00farelt stofnunin og hugmyndir hennar eru og fara a\u00f0 sn\u00faa s\u00e9r a\u00f0 uppbyggilegri m\u00e1lum (erf\u00f0asyndin.. hver s\u00e6ttir sig vi\u00f0 a\u00f0 f\u00e6\u00f0ast sekur?) e\u00f0a umbur\u00f0arlyndari hreyfingum, til d\u00e6mis b\u00faddisma sem er heimspekistefna frekar en tr\u00faarbr\u00f6g\u00f0.<\/p>\n<p><b>Uppf\u00e6rt:<\/b> Unnur <a href=\"http:\/\/unnur.klaki.net\/mind\/entry\/1029151849.html\">minnist a\u00f0eins<\/a> \u00e1 \u00feessa f\u00e6rslu m\u00edna og nefnir \u00fear a\u00f0 erf\u00f0asyndin s\u00e9 ka\u00fe\u00f3lsk, ekki l\u00fathersk. \u00c1 vef kirkjunnar er a\u00f0 finna tr\u00faarj\u00e1tningar l\u00fatherskra manna: &#8220;a\u00f0 ein s\u00e9 sk\u00edrn til fyrirgefningar syndanna (<a href=\"http:\/\/www.kirkjan.is\/?trumal\/kenning\/nikeujatningin\">heimild<\/a>)&#8221;. Hva\u00f0 syndum er veri\u00f0 a\u00f0 sk\u00edra b\u00f6rnin fr\u00e1 \u00f6rf\u00e1rra m\u00e1na\u00f0a ef ekki erf\u00f0asyndina? \u00d3borganleg er svo <a href=\"http:\/\/www.kirkjan.is\/?trumal\/kenning\/athanasiusarjatningin\">l\u00f6gfr\u00e6\u00f0ingaj\u00e1tningin<\/a> \u00fear sem a\u00f0 reynt er a\u00f0 koma \u00e1 hreinu hverning Gu\u00f0 \u00fer\u00edeinn virkar.<\/p>\n<p><b>Uppf\u00e6rt aftur:<\/b> UMB (n\u00fa h\u00fan vill nota skammstafanir&#8230;) r\u00e6\u00f0ir <a href=\"http:\/\/unnur.klaki.net\/mind\/entry\/1029163409.html\">meira um erf\u00f0asyndarm\u00e1li\u00f0<\/a>, sj\u00e1lfur gr\u00edp \u00e9g \u00ed \u00fea\u00f0 h\u00e1lmstr\u00e1 a\u00f0 \u00feetta s\u00e9 allt frekar \u00f3lj\u00f3st hj\u00e1 kirkjunnar m\u00f6nnum, svona eins og fleira sem \u00fea\u00f0an kemur.<\/p>\n<p><b>Enn og aftur uppf\u00e6rt:<\/b> Unnur svarar sm\u00e1skotinu me\u00f0 <a href=\"http:\/\/unnur.klaki.net\/mind\/entry\/1029165187.html\">g\u00f3\u00f0um punkti<\/a>. \u00c9g kalla hana Unni \u00fear sem a\u00f0 \u00fea\u00f0 er hluti URL-sins \u00e1 vef hennar, og h\u00fan vir\u00f0ist nefnd \u00fea\u00f0 af \u00f6\u00f0rum netverjum. Sj\u00e1lfur get \u00e9g alveg lifa\u00f0 me\u00f0 \u00fev\u00ed a\u00f0 vera kalla\u00f0ur J\u00f3i, JBJ, J\u00f3hannes (\u00ed formlegri tilvikum) og jafnvel fyrri tv\u00f6 n\u00f6fnin e\u00f0a fullt nafn,  en aldrei aldrei skal kalla mig J\u00f3hannes Jensson, ekkert er verra en \u00feegar a\u00f0 mi\u00f0nafninu m\u00ednu er stoli\u00f0! \u00deetta er reyndar nokku\u00f0 sem a\u00f0 \u00fdmsar opinberar stofnanir i\u00f0ka mj\u00f6g og er \u00fea\u00f0 mi\u00f0ur.<\/p>\n<p><b>Of oft uppf\u00e6rt:<\/b> \u00c1g\u00fast vir\u00f0ist lesa mun meira \u00ed \u00feessar p\u00e6lingar m\u00ednar en \u00e9g setti \u00ed \u00feetta, sem er akk\u00farat \u00fea\u00f0 sem a\u00f0 hann sakar mig um. Hann <a href=\"http:\/\/agflyg.tripod.com\/2002_08_11_gamalt.html#80146892\">d\u00e6mir<\/a> mig eg\u00f3centr\u00edskan sem a\u00f0 honum er frj\u00e1lst a\u00f0 gera, en \u00e9g held raunar a\u00f0 allir s\u00e9u eg\u00f3centr\u00edskir \u00fear sem a\u00f0 erfitt er a\u00f0 vera ekki samm\u00e1la eigin sj\u00f3narmi\u00f0um (nema \u00fe\u00fa s\u00e9rt atvinnup\u00f3lit\u00edkus eins og Vilhj\u00e1lmur Egilsson sem a\u00f0 grei\u00f0ir atkv\u00e6\u00f0i gegn eigin sannf\u00e6ringu og l\u00fdsir \u00fev\u00ed yfir). \u00c1g\u00fast les \u00fea\u00f0 sem hann vill lesa en ekki \u00fea\u00f0 sem stendur, \u00e9g tala\u00f0i um sj\u00e1lfan mig sem gu\u00f0leysingja en hann segir a\u00f0 \u00e9g kalli mig tr\u00faleysingja en \u00e6tti a\u00f0 kalla mig gu\u00f0leysingja&#8230; sem \u00e9g ger\u00f0i. Nau\u00f0synlegur a\u00f0skilna\u00f0ur er anna\u00f0 m\u00e1l j\u00e1 en \u00fearna s\u00e9st h\u00e6ttan, stefna kirkjunnar og stefna samf\u00e9lagsins \u00ed m\u00e1lefnum \u00fdmissa h\u00f3pa er ekki s\u00fa sama. Var\u00f0andi \u00fe\u00e1 sem a\u00f0 eru tr\u00faa\u00f0ir en jafnframt vilja samkynhneig\u00f0ar giftingar \u00fe\u00e1 geta \u00feeir fylgt g\u00f6mlum og g\u00f3\u00f0um si\u00f0 sem a\u00f0 ekki minni menn en Englandskonungar hafa i\u00f0ka\u00f0, a\u00f0 stofna eigin s\u00f6fnu\u00f0, n\u00f3g er af \u00feeim. \u00deeim sem a\u00f0 ofb\u00fd\u00f0ur heimska kirkjunnar geta reynt a\u00f0 taka v\u00f6ldin (mj\u00f6g erfitt) e\u00f0a stofna\u00f0 \u00feennan n\u00fdja s\u00f6fnu\u00f0 (mun einfaldara). \u00c9g vir\u00f0i \u00fe\u00e1 sem tr\u00faa, \u00fdmsir m\u00e9r n\u00e1komnir eru tr\u00faa\u00f0ir og \u00e9g atyr\u00f0i ekki Gu\u00f0 \u00feeirra \u00fe\u00f3 \u00e9g atyr\u00f0i kirkjuna og hennar emb\u00e6ttismenn.<\/p>\n<p><b>S\u00ed\u00f0asta uppf\u00e6rsla:<\/b> \u00c1g\u00fast lei\u00f0r\u00e9tti rugli\u00f0 me\u00f0 tr\u00faleysi\u00f0 og vi\u00f0 lukum deginum me\u00f0 t\u00f6lvup\u00f3sti. \u00deetta var hressandi umr\u00e6\u00f0a milli a\u00f0ila sem allir voru me\u00f0 eitthva\u00f0 \u00ed kollinum :p<\/p>\n<p><b>Langs\u00ed\u00f0asta f\u00e6rsla:<\/b> \u00d3li Nj\u00e1ll <a href=\"http:\/\/olinjall.tripod.com\/2002_08_11_gamalt.html#80155010\" title=\"Misritar um lei\u00f0 og hann sk\u00fdtur...hmmm\">kastar steinv\u00f6lum<\/a> \u00far glerh\u00fasi! Reyndar minnir mig a\u00f0 \u00c1g\u00fast hafi sj\u00e1lfur rita\u00f0 &#8220;gifta lesb\u00edur og kv\u00e6na homma&#8221; og taldi \u00fea\u00f0 vera h\u00f3tfyndni hj\u00e1 honum.<\/p>\n<p>B\u00fai\u00f0!<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>\u00c1g\u00fast Flygenring birtir grein \u00e1 Frelsi.is \u00ed dag \u00fear sem hann talar um r\u00e9ttindi samkynhneig\u00f0ra. Ne\u00f0st minnist hann \u00e1 a\u00f0 &#8220;enn vill kirkjan ekki kv\u00e6na homma og gifta lesb\u00edur.&#8221; (heimild). \u00c9g held a\u00f0 \u00fea\u00f0 s\u00e9 ekkert skylda kirkjunnar a\u00f0 kv\u00e6na homma og gifta lesb\u00edur. Kirkjan er bara enn einn tr\u00faars\u00f6fnu\u00f0urinn og tr\u00faarbr\u00f6g\u00f0 eru misfrj\u00e1lslynd hva\u00f0 [&hellip;]<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"closed","ping_status":"closed","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-364","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","author-joi"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/joi.betra.is\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/364"}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/joi.betra.is\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/joi.betra.is\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/joi.betra.is\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/users\/1"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/joi.betra.is\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fcomments&post=364"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"https:\/\/joi.betra.is\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/364\/revisions"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/joi.betra.is\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fmedia&parent=364"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/joi.betra.is\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fcategories&post=364"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/joi.betra.is\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Ftags&post=364"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}